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in your opinion, which is the best official live album by Bob Marley and The Wailers?
My favourite is "Exodus deluxe" (rainbow 1977) :)
bestjamaica
12-01-10, 12:29
the first one I bought...."LIVE!"
Rastaman1980
12-01-10, 16:15
babylon by bus 1978 :joint
Roxy 1976 The entire show is perfect with a low reggae riddim i really like this live Best Ever version of No Woman Cry
Roxy 1976 The entire show is perfect with a low reggae riddim
too low for my liking
I was undecided about live 75, BBB and rainbow 77... after all I voted for live 75
Live at the lyceum is good with the special Get up Stand Up :)
Live at the raimbow i licked it but he is very very comercialized
BBB is soft for me
in my opinion the best album Live! is "Exodus-Deluxe Edition" with only the five songs dated june 4th, 1977 in Rainbow Theatre (UK) .. his power-effect is a indiscutible fact but it's only in my opinion! :) ... the song "Exodus" is astonishing!! you provide with a good stereo and it's a piece of cake... :)
Live at the lyceum is good with the special Get up Stand Up :)
Live at the raimbow i licked it but he is very very comercialized
BBB is soft for me
live 1975 is pure roots reggae, I think it's the first live reggae album ever
BBB has more rock sound with those Junior guitar solos
Rainbow is one of my favourite, I love "the heathen" so much
Talkin blues 73 is a good album but I don't like the wah wah guitar, I do prefer the sound of Junior and Al
Roxy, as I told, is too low for me, a little monotonous
Leeds 73 with 2 Legends Tosh and Marley in top form and perfect. Just the basic band. Drums, Bass, Bob on full rhythm guitar, just one keyboard, Tosh doing his guitar thing and him and Bob interacting with their lyrics like nobody else can.
I love 1973 but 1977 is crazy Bob is going nuts with the exodus the freedom thing.. it is very very cool. But its not the whole show so it is a big let down.....would love to hear a complete rainbow show unedited from start to finsh!!!!
yeaah i realy licke the heathen of the raimbow when the dub start with the "Heeaaah" of Bob. In the documentary "Childrens of the rock" we can see a unseen part of No Woman no Cry very nice :)
I agree 100% with that Jack. Why don't they release the WHOLE Rainbow show unedited??? All re-mastered up willy like the Deluxe editions! Jack you have family connections ask them wha gwan?? :)
You know I have tried so many times. I also do not believe they are getting the right advice when it comes to some matters. There are many things that go in to it. More then anyone would really know unless you have worked with them. I do know that they try a lot more then people think but that really doesn't show when it comes to new things being let out. There is a lot of vultures around. Most people get upset with the "Family" but I believe and hope some new stuff will finally come out sooner then later
live 1975 is pure roots reggae, I think it's the first live reggae album ever
Jimmy Cliff "Live" may have been released around that time, too...I'm not sure
Jimmy Cliff Live is a very great album good choice Klaus
stonechater
17-01-10, 01:33
Live! got great versions of kinky reggae, them belly full & burnin & lootin, but I voted babylon by bus, especially Concrete Jungle is great
I do love to see so many people say BBB is their favorite, b/c like Kaya it does not get the respect it deserves from people who I really don't care what they say.....but it is a great album and I have always loved it. It seems a lot of time there is too much compairing of albums instead of just taking each one on its own and judging it on its own merits. Of course I am referring to music critics/journalists who as a whole I never give an ounce of my attention to. Of course we do have plenty of great ones Chuck Foster, John Masouri, Steve Heilig just to name a few. But some of these Rolling Stone reviews I read make me sick. It's funny to go back and read reviews of Marley albums from the time period. Some silly stuff was said that's for sure. :)
It's funny to go back and read reviews of Marley albums from the time period. Some silly stuff was said that's for sure. :)
have you ever read Lester Bangs review of Kaya album?
I can't think of it off of the top of my head, but Lester would write some wild stuff that's for sure. At first I maybe did not understand his style, but his article in Chuck Foster's Roots Rock Reggae was one of the most entertaining. I remember one of his articles, he said something to the effect that if you think Burning Spear is dreadfully slow then wait till you hear dub. :)
please, red his review of rastaman vibration, exodus and kaya album :D
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/bobmarley/albums/album/93541/review/6067629/kaya
".....Rastaman Vibration, the worst album he ever made until this one, hit the Top Twenty, and last summer's Exodus finished in Billboard's Top Hundred LPs of 1977.
.... Rastaman Vibration was the last straw: an LP obviously calculated to break Disco Bob into the American Kleenex radio market full force, complete with chicklet vocal backups chirping, "Posi-tive!" and an opulent, palmthatch Tarzan-like press kit that would have made serviceable shelter for Gilligan and the Captain. Exodus simply seemed schizoid, one side no better than Rastaman Vibration outtakes, and the other a Rastafarian liturgy mouthing much righteousness but falling leagues short of the corrosive militance that led ex-Wailer Peter Tosh's concurrently released Equal Rights to go so far as to mention Palestinian guerrillas admiringly. Marley was clearly trying to have it both ways, but broadcasting the politics of Armageddon/liberation while dishing up potential Hall and Oates covers like "Waiting in Vain" is walking a mighty shaky tightrope. On Kaya, he falls off. Guess to which side.
This is quite possibly the blandest set of reggae music I have ever heard. Musically, Kaya is a succession of the most tepid reggae clich?s, pristinely performed and recorded, every last bit of tourist bait (down to the wood blocks) in place just like a Martin Denny record. Marley sings in a cheerful lilt light and bouncy enough for panty-hose commercials. Most of the words on Kaya apparently deal with the simple beauties of vegetable matter, the sun and other aspects of the insensate organic world, and how contented they make the singer feel. The placidity is so completely undisturbed (except in one song of love lost and the last two cuts, which really don't say anything anyway) that Marley comes off as downright smug.
Some sort of inverse racism must be involved if people can actually ascribe commitment, or even talent, to verses like: "Excuse me while I light my spliff/Oh GOD I gotta take a lift/From reality I just can't drift/That's why I am staying with this riff." Unless Marley is just heaping contempt on his ever-credulous white audience—which seems unlikely since his Jamaican fans are expected to buy this stuff, too—such lyrics place him sub-Chocolate Watchband. There's also a song about how the rain is falling and how glad he is because that'll make the dope crop grow. (Wonder if they have a Five-Year Plan?) Melanie Award: "When the morning gather the rainbow/Want you to know, I am a rainbow too." Rhyming Dictionary op. cit.: "I wanna love you, and treat you right/I wanna love you, every day and every night." Do these last lines make Bob Marley the Barry White of Montego Bay, or perhaps mean, given the assassination attempts and general war ina Babylon, that he merely wants to love the woman until the fear in him subsides? Probably the latter, considering the tall order placed in "Misty Morning": "I want you to straighten out my today.../I want you to straighten out my tomorrow." Whatever happened to Self-Determination Music? Oh well, gotta move with the times. There is one song intimating that his woman left him because she couldn't take "the pressure around me," but considering the Rastas' well-known stand on women in general and the probability of that picture of Marley toting a model around a Paris disco having run in the Kingston Daily Gleaner, one must reserve the benefit of the doubt. Who wants to make the beast with two backs with a walking target who can't keep his hands off the strange?
.... If my theory is correct, then maybe we can blame Kaya on an accident of the bloodline, Marley's father being white. Otherwise, we're just going to have to accept it: this man wants to be a superstar at all costs and will sell out his music, his people, his religion and his politics to get there. I know Jesus was betrayed by a kiss—but a toke?
So funny huh! I always wonder if these writers ever look back and realise how inept thier original words were. Such as this silly review or the lady journalist who in Canada who questions Bob about Rastas having a bad reputation and dealing drugs or Rastas looking strange because of their hair. And Bob just sits back and lets her have it.
I do like BBB, I just wish they would have taken an entire Kaya Tour Concert and not mix different tours with a screwed up running order
sad to say but there is no official live album from 1979 and 1980 shows.
My favourite are the 1979 dates
I wonder why Bob didn't tour Europe to promote his Survival album in 1979 and why, in his Uprising tour, he would sing only 1 or 2 tracks from Survival album
Survival sold well in Europe in 1979!
buffalo soldier
22-01-10, 09:57
I do like live 1975
soulrebel2008
06-04-10, 01:39
I wonder why Bob didn't tour Europe to promote his Survival album in 1979 and why, in his Uprising tour, he would sing only 1 or 2 tracks from Survival album
Survival sold well in Europe in 1979!
good question...think only songs never perfomed was babylon system & top rankin',for the rest of
album all was performed. but looking at 79 tour list
bob's tour of europe was pretty much cut short..
started in japan and ends in Australia and for rest
of tour all mostly u.s.a and ending tour in bahamas, but if you look at u.s set lists of shows you do find alot survival track's performed.
from another veiw though in why certain tracks from survival wasnt played in europe i belive was due too fact the album sold its self and europe already loved bob, for u.s.a i dont think record sales was that good so hence the survival songs performed, and america only started too love marley music after him gone. that is true fact.
anywho very nice topic marco. :joint
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from another veiw though in why certain tracks from survival wasnt played in europe i belive was due too fact the album sold its self and europe already loved bob, for u.s.a i dont think record sales was that good so hence the survival songs performed, and america only started too love marley music after him gone. that is true fact.
anywho very nice topic marco. :joint
TY, it's a good theory
to make it simple:
there was no tour to promote Survival in Europe, period.
in 1978, the band was promoting Kaya, then in 1980 Uprising has been published, so why play songs from the second to last album? they di regularly perform "Zimbabwe", from Bob's point of view perhaps the most important song on the album
plus, another important reason: opposed to Uprising, Survival has lots of horn arrangements - no horn section on tour in 1980, hence hardly any survival songs
soulrebel2008
06-04-10, 23:37
to make it simple:
there was no tour to promote Survival in Europe, period.
in 1978, the band was promoting Kaya, then in 1980 Uprising has been published, so why play songs from the second to last album? they di regularly perform "Zimbabwe", from Bob's point of view perhaps the most important song on the album
plus, another important reason: opposed to Uprising, Survival has lots of horn arrangements - no horn section on tour in 1980, hence hardly any survival songs
was refering too 1979 era..you are right though there was no survival tour in europe 79 , only eight songs from album was all performed in u.s.a.
not much more realy too disscuss on this i guess
stonechater
07-04-10, 20:19
good question...think only songs never perfomed was babylon system & top rankin',for the rest of
album all was performed. but looking at 79 tour list
Do we really know Top Rankin' wasn't performed? I mean, if we wouldn't have had Chicago 1979 on tape, I doubt anyone would believe Marley did play "Survival" live.
Do we really know Top Rankin' wasn't performed? I mean, if we wouldn't have had Chicago 1979 on tape, I doubt anyone would believe Marley did play "Survival" live.
of course we don't KNOW - some people are a bit inaccurate when it comes to their writings...it's better say "so far no live recording of top ranking has surfaced", or something similiar
Live! (london 1975):joint
babylon by bus is the best live record i cant stop playing kinky reggae its a much better verson that the one on catch a fire i just love the bass on it in fact i met family man after he played a gig in dublin about 2 yrs ago which i went to i wait outside and when he came out i shock his hand and got him to autograph the ticket of the gig he was a true gentleman just like bob was
babylon by bus is the best live record i cant stop playing kinky reggae its a much better verson that the one on catch a fire i just love the bass on it in fact i met family man after he played a gig in dublin about 2 yrs ago which i went to i wait outside and when he came out i shock his hand and got him to autograph the ticket of the gig he was a true gentleman just like bob was
my favourite track of BBB is the heathen: Junior Marvin at his peak
I am surprised to see all the votes for Babylon By Bus, in my opinion Island / Tuff Gong should have recorded and released the One Love concert from '78 but as it is released concerts then i would have to go for the Leeds 1973 concert on Burnin deluxe, Bunny not playing did not affect the Wailers performances too much but Peter Tosh is superb on the 73 performances, just check the guitar playing the Wailers were fantastic live in 73 (if only i had a time machine) :D
nattyroots93
23-10-11, 21:11
babylon by bus super album surtout la 2eme chanson jadore punky reggae)
Lyceum 75, the sound was still roots, the vibes strong, then after it became less "dirty", still excellent but it's the evolution.
teamster6924
11-11-11, 04:23
I like Roxy 1976-best version of "Rat Race" ever. I also love Quiet Knight 1975-rawest show ever-great crowd. In the poll, I vote for Leeds 1973.
still no vote for talkin' blues :shock:
I'd like to vote: "Live Forever: The Stanley Theatre, Pittsburgh PA September 23, 1980". Not the best Bob's live, but the most complete among the officials. Most complete because also includes songs from the last albums
I'd like to vote: "Live Forever: The Stanley Theatre, Pittsburgh PA September 23, 1980". Not the best Bob's live, but the most complete among the officials. Most complete because also includes songs from the last albums
oh you are right! I added live forever so you could vote it
Live 1973-1975 is an official release too.
one love peace concert of peter can enter too LOL
David Dusty Cupples
11-07-12, 17:46
haven't heard them all so I can't vote. Is Leeds '73 an official Tuff Gong album? didn't know they released one. (too busy writing I guess). For my money, the most thrilling live performance is the '79 Santa Barbara concert DVD--yes, I like it even better than the '77 Rainbow concert on the Exodus tour. Roger Steffens, on the other hand, can hardly watch '79 SB because Bob has begun to lose his strength--which is true, he is much more vigorous at the Rainbow. But even though his voice is less dynamic by '79, his performance is riveting and the Wailers are just awesome. Still better than anybody else who ever came along. of course you want to have them both, SB and Rainbow.
CIAO E' DIFFICILE VOTARE VOTARE PERCHE' SONO TUTTI BELLI I CONCERTO OGNI CONCERTO E' UNA NUOVA EMOZIONE ,IN QUESTO MOMENTO DOPO AVRE ASCOLTATO UN PO' DI INSTRUMENTAL SE DEVO VOTARE IN QUESTO MOMENTO ASCOLTO LIVE SANTA CRUZ BELLISIMO CONCERTO The Heathen
daniele1980
20-01-13, 23:04
io ho votato per roxy 76 perchè è un sound completo e molto roots e i concerti del 76 mi piacciono molto anche exter 76:joint
a me invece i concerti del 76 piaccono meno perché sono troppo lenti
amo la svolta "rock" impressa da junior marvin a tutto il gruppo e quindi per me i migliori concerti sono quelli post 1977 (lyceum 75 a parte che è un palmo sopra il resto)
concordo appieno con Marco:joint
comunque le lentezze così pregne di blues mi son sempre piaciute... difficile scegliere... ma come avevo già espresso il live ufficiale è il migliore anche se babylon by bus non scherza, ma c'è una carica magica in quel live!
daniele1980
27-01-13, 14:09
Dal 73 all'80 c'e stato ogni anno per i wailers un cambiamento musicale io che mi diverto a stare dietro a loro con il basso ascoltando una volta un concerto del 76 una del 77 e cosi via fino all'80 ti accorgi che ogni anno il sound cambiava il 73 è un sound da cantina 74 non lo so 75 già è migliorato sono più lineari nelle canzoni e poi sulla chitarra ritmica cè il wah wah molto acuta nel 76 il sound è diventato molto lento e roots nel 77 come dice marco con l'entrata di junior il sound è diventato molto rock(poi ho letto l'itervista fatta non ricordo il nome comunque a quello che gli ha modificato le chitarre e gli effetti, che usava jimi endrix cosi hanno modificato il sound ancora una volta) poi dal 78 79 ti accorgi come giocavano su ogni concerto con questi effetti poi nell'80 un sound molto morbido tipo providens rohad island ma anche duro tipo dortmund o milano.:joint
ottime osservazioni daniele!
comunque le lentezze così pregne di blues mi son sempre piaciute... difficile scegliere... ma come avevo già espresso il live ufficiale è il migliore anche se babylon by bus non scherza, ma c'è una carica magica in quel live!
e qui esce l'animo rollingstones di Mauri :rolleyes:
e qui esce l'animo rollingstones di Mauri :rolleyes:
:lolo
è l'animo blues :joint
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