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Old 29-01-10   #1
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I went to the board tonight to find news about Jonathan Demme directing the documentary 'Marley' that was originally schedule for February 6, 2010. It seems the project will be deleyed for later... Here is that article that I found (October 5, 2009)

The life of the Bob Marley documentary has lead a circuitous, bumpy one so far.

The Weinstein Company project was first announced in February 2008 with Martin Scorsese at the helm and it was supposed to hit in time for what will be Marley's 65th birthday, Feb. 6, 2010 (A regular Marly biopic was announced by TWC one month later and was slotted for a late 2009 release at the time, but obviously that didn't happen and rights issues may have bumped it off for several years).

In May 2008, Scorsese, perhaps overloaded with work, left the Marley doc project and director Jonathan Demme took over. Then late this summer, the New York Post reported that Demme parted ways with the project as well, but we spoke to Demme during TIFF doing promotion of his latest rock doc, "Neil Young Trunk Show," (another solid effort you should see).
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"What happened hasn't fully happened yet," Demme said alluding to the documentaries internal problems. "The Marley documentary is on absolute hold. The portrait that I fashioned from all the archival footage of Bob Marley is one that I love very much, but [that love] is not shared by the financiers and the project is on complete hold at the moment and there's a lot of discussion going on geared to try and find the most positive possible resolution to this situation."

Demme's comments basically confirm the NYPost's earlier report that claimed producer Steve Bing was less-than-impressed after seeing the director's first round of editing. So what does he mean about resolution, is he talking about a legal conclusion or one of financial restitution? Or perhaps a come to Jesus meeting where the creative issues on both sides can come to terms with one another.

It essentially seems that Demme's cut of "Marley" (the working title) is mostly done, so if Bing and the filmmaker could come to terms we still could have a documentary in tandem with the Feb, 2010 birthday date, but that does remain to be seen and it appears both parties are at an impasse. Lets hope it happens. (more on the link below)

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I'm begining to think that this 2010 Bob's birthday celebration will be a fiasco:
this is another fantastic news from the Marley family:

Marley celebration Smile Jamaica concert cancelled
Thursday, January 28, 2010
Ghetto Youth's International, has announced that the 2010 staging of the annual Bob Marley concert, Smile Jamaica, is being cancelled due what the organisers say are numerous circumstances.
Smile Jamaica spokesperson Norman Bryan, said that while the organisation was looking forward to staging the concert, which is a celebration of the King of Reggae's birth, later, "there are some extenuating circumstances that just cannot be ignored, and there's no way we could proceed with the concert bearing them in mind".
He added that the Marley family will still be celebrating Bob's birthday and honouring his legacy in private.
Bryan also said that the Ghetto Youth's International would be redoubling its efforts to make a 2011 staging possible.
"Ghetto Youths International will continue spreading the message of Robert Nesta Marley, and we will be definitely putting our heads together to make 2011 the year Smile Jamaica returns from its hiatus."
Smile Jamaica saw its historic birth in December of 1976, when it was held at the National Heroes Park in Kingston. The event took place a mere two days after gunmen almost ended Bob Marley's life, and he was recuperating in the Blue Mountains. It was there that Marley magic reigned supreme yet again, as an injured Bob agreed to perform one song for the 80,000-strong throng of patrons. That one song turned into a magical 90 minute performance with Marley and the Wailers.
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Old 30-01-10   #3
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give me a break! Unbelievable, no wait, it's believable.

are there any more details other than the slim say nothings of that article? "extenuating circumstances that can't be ignored" l LOVE it!
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hey guys, look what i've found in the archive of the austinchronicle newspaper: the review of Johnatan Demme film on Bob! Probably journalists had the chance to see the preview and this is the article:

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...oid=oid:810857

Jonathan Demme's 'Bob Marley Stay With the Rhythm' pushes beyond the boundaries of the screen

BY LOUIS BLACK


Onscreen there is a reggae group playing. The leader is singing and dancing. He raises his hand up to the heavens, beseeching God. The sound of the music is hypnotic. His body is moving fluidly as he dances with the music, but then his movements change. He's bouncing up and down like there is a string running from the heavens above him right down through his body. It looks like the string is being yanked so that he jerks upward, not dancing now but something more direct, jumping up and down. It's not like how a marionette moves: There is only one string, not several, and there is nothing coordinated about his movement.
Sitting there at a screening, I am certain that these are moments when he is connecting the earth to the music, and the music to God. I don't think that this was what he believed was happening. It is what I know was happening.
That God is the deceased Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie makes no difference. The film is Bob Marley Stay With the Rhythm, a work in progress by filmmaker Jonathan Demme, who hosted the screening. The singer is Bob Marley. Much of the traditional history, musical evolution, and biographical information that are the meat and potatoes of many documentaries is here, but only to provide context for the film's higher vision. Marley as an entertainer, a musician, a singer, a star, a prophet, an indigenous political leader, and a member of so many families is the story – but the story is not the main point.
What drives the movie beyond the boundaries of the screen into something multidimensional is the same force that drove Marley his whole life: music. Reggae music is for dancing, listening, inspiring, bringing people together, and celebrating – but it also is a form of prayer and a way of talking to God. Reggae is religious, seeking the holy; it combines what comes up out of the Jamaican soil with the dreams, lives, and beliefs of the people.
This film is not a quick-cut, chop-shop bio, and it's not a well-made, smooth, narrative PBS music documentary with famous talking heads and snippets of hit songs.
Instead, shortly into this film it becomes overwhelmingly clear that Demme's eye is on a greater prize. Bob Marley Stay With the Rhythm is an evocation, a celebration, and a prayer. The film is not just about Bob Marley – though it tells of the man, his music, religion, country, family, history, and people – but it is out of him.
After the screening, Demme joked that they had seriously considered using "A Film by Bob Marley" as a credit but didn't. No problem, as Marley's authorship of the film is as obvious as Demme's.
Bob Marley does not just use bits and pieces of music to illustrate the story; it is as one with the music. There is more than an hour of live performance footage. The film's interviews, archival footage, and narrative notes are used to tell of reggae, Bob Marley, the Wailers, Rastafarians, Jamaica, the island's people and politics, but that is mostly as a means to an end. More than wanting you to receive information, Bob Marley wants you to be plunged into an emotional and spiritual world, that of Marley's music.
There are shots of where Marley grew up and played, interviews with friends and fellow musicians – the film is an organic celebration. Marley, his music, and the film all come out of the people, their history, island, religion, and music.
Music is an integral part of Demme's life. All his films have carefully considered soundtracks that are never gratuitous but always add another layer of meaning and emotion. He has long used breaks in his Hollywood schedule to make music films. Since his first effort in 1980, the Suburban Lawns doing "Gidget Goes to Hell," he's made any number of music videos and worked with such artists as Bruce Springsteen, Suzanne Vega, the Neville Brothers, New Order, and the Feelies. Along the way, Demme also made a number of longer-form music films, including a short film on Ginger Baker (one of his first directing efforts), Sin City: Artists United Against Apartheid, and Neil Young Trunk Show. Some audiences know him best for his performance films, perhaps, most notably the seminal Stop Making Sense and Neil Young: Heart of Gold. Each of Demme's music videos, performance films, and music-related documentaries stands alone, but when considered together, they are an extraordinary body of work, far more than the sum of their parts.
Demme doesn't overload his films with MTV flash or resonant narrative vignettes. Some filmmakers who shoot music seem almost embarrassed by it, misdirecting the audiences' attention to meaningless montages of bright and flashy things. Other filmmakers quickly slide into cliché. The worst are those who lacquer on layers of crap, which too often results in elaborate, fantastic extravaganzas that come across like Fellini outtakes, hallucinatory indulgences, or Gene Kelly dances so badly misremembered that they stagger instead of glide. Those films are no longer about music but instead about the filmmakers.
Demme trusts the music so completely that he focuses almost solely on it. As proud as he is of these films, he works to keep himself unobtrusive and invisible to viewers by resisting overly stylish turns, editing that is more about fancy cutting than music, superfluous decorations, and personal interpretations by the filmmaker. The films are not about him but about the music
But Demme knows that music is more than just artful sounds, that it is something deeper and more connected. The filmmaker bores down on the music being made and the musicians making it. Instead of applying layers of lacquer, he goes deeper and deeper into the music itself, knowing there is more there that can be conveyed by getting into it as intensely and with as few obstructions as possible.
As a lifelong music fan, Demme also knows that the experience of watching music really includes so very much more than sound; one can go on listing only the most obvious. There are the musicians and their instruments, playing, and performances. The song's sound, lyrics, chorus, structure, theme, music, and tempo. Live shows are impacted by sound, lights, other audience members, the room, and what you can see and hear. All of the above don't even begin to touch on the music's resonance, the emotions conveyed, the memories evoked, and the feelings inspired.
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Demme and I have talked about the moments of transcendence that come when one listens to live music. Standing there – aware of the musicians, room, and audience – you suddenly find yourself listening to the music not just with your ears, but with your heart, mind, soul, personal history, and imagination: You find yourself in a rare and wonderful state.
When watching a movie, one can also become overwhelmed by a small hurricane of emotions – evoked not just by what is on the screen but by the very ideas, cinema, style, and language of the filmmaker.
In both those cases, the whole is much greater than the sum of its parts. It stops being just watching a movie or listening to music and becomes something nearly indescribable.
Demme's goal is to marry music and film, combining the unique experiences into something greater than the sum of the parts. His body of music works offers a library of approaches to filming music. Stop Making Sense relies on the Talking Heads' dynamic stage shows, but it is also about building momentum, the multilayered construction of a rock performance. Heart of Gold is elegiac, with few backgrounds and brilliant lighting, like a series of brightly hand-colored postcards someone is sending you from different places and past travels. It is also of the present; it is immediate and, when dealing with the past, very much looking back on it.
Bob Marley is designed to be experienced more than just watched. Unlike many concert films, it is not just an archival record of an event. Pushing beyond narrative, it aims for viewers to let go on a cognitive level, sensually barreling along through spiritual white-water rapids, normal distinctions fading away until everything melds together – until there is only the man, his music, and God.
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Coda: I executive-produced one music documentary (Be Here to Love Me: A Film About Townes Van Zandt) and am a talking head in another (The Devil and Daniel Johnston). Both of those films received mostly very positive reviews (though, of course, there were some negative ones). Some of the reviewers acknowledged they'd never heard the artists' music before seeing the film. Almost all of those, whether or not they liked the films, weighed in with their opinions of the music. It seemed obvious that these films were portraits of artists, not sampler CDs. Still, most of these Polaroid judgments were offered with authority and without hesitation.
Even beginning to form a critical opinion on a musician's work from a film seems ridiculous. Rarely is a performance shown that is not truncated in some way. In too many concert films, the enormity of the show, the look of the audience, and the constant roaring overwhelm the music.
Bob Marley is different. If you don't know much about him or his music, you will by film's end. If you are a longtime listener, you will leave in bliss, probably to go right home to put some Marley music on and turn it up loud!

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Yeah, they were having screeings on it. Roger sat in on one about 2 days before they pulled the last plug. Seems the the Marley's are always having a problem with the "works in progress."
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news from the docu:
http://www.music-news.com/shownews.a...&nItemID=39088

Kevin MacDonald has been chosen to direct the upcoming Bob Marley documentary Marley. MacDonald's previous work includes The Last King of Scotland, Touching the Void, the upcoming gladiator film The Eagle and numerous documentaries including the Academy Award winner One Day in September.
MacDonald was chosen by the film's executive producers including Marley's son Ziggy, Steve Bing and Chris Blackwell. Ziggy Marley said in a statement, "We went to Kevin initially as an acclaimed documentarian but what has been most important to the family is his obvious passion for and interest in my father's life as a musician and person."
MacDonald will have the full cooperation of the Marley family. "What made Bob tick is probably unanswerable but viewers will certainly feel that they know him a little better after seeing our documentary. I am grateful to the Marley family for entrusting me with their heritage."
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The documentary is expected to premier later this year for the 30th anniversary of Marley's passing.
Marley will open worldwide in the third quarter to mark the 30th anniversary of the musician’s death in 1981. Martin Scorsese and Jonathan Demme were previously linked to the project, which was initially timetabled to open in February 2010 and was positioned at the time as a commemoration of the 65th anniverary of Marley’s birth.
“I was already intrigued by the Marley story but the way in which this film is developing, as we delve through the archive materials and interview key characters in his life, has surpassed my expectations,” Macdonald said, adding: “I am grateful to the Marley family for entrusting me with their heritage.”
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13:29 Bob Marley documentary, “I’ve been working on this Bob Marley documentary for about five months off and on. I’ve started to do interviews with people and meeting people and researching. It’s one of those films that somebody actually came to me with it—It’s not often that, when somebody comes to me with a film I go, “Oh I’m gonna make your film,” I usually originate things myself. But with this, I love Marley and I love the huge resonance he’s had around the world, it’s an incredible thing, so I couldn’t say no. I’m heading off on Sunday to do three weeks in Jamaica, meeting everybody down there, and trying to really reveal who the man was, which I think is the thing that’s been missing in everything that’s been done about him before, try and really show the human being. And also, at the same time I’m gonna travel around various parts of the world where people are still influenced, inspired by Marley and his legacy and by his music and the message, and talk to them about why that is and what they take from it. Because I think the unique thing about Marley is that he’s become more than a musician. He’s become a kind of philosopher, or a kind of icon, whatever that means, or a prophet even, if you’re religiously inclined.
”What parts of Marley’s life will the film focus on?
“I’m going to take elements from his whole life. Obviously you can’t go through everything chronologically in a 90 minute or two-hour film. I’m gonna take the interesting bits (laughs). I recommend to any of you, that’s always a good way to make a film: use the interesting bits.
What the family’s involvement with the film means.
“I think for a long time the family hadn’t really wanted to necessarily get involved in a film, but I think now they partly realize that everyone’s are getting older, some people are dying. If you’re not gonna do a film now, kind of the authoritarian film, then it’s never gonna be possible to do. So they’ve been incredibly cooperative, I’ve done interviews with Ziggy Marley and Cedella Marley, Cedella’s daughter, and with Rita the wife, with Rita Garner, with her, where she lives now, she lives part of the year here in Florida and part of the year in Miami. So yeah it’s a really great privilege to do, it’s a really fantastically fun and interesting, interesting project.”
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Will he do another feature film? Says he likes to alternate between fiction and nonfiction. Talks about the difference between doing documentaries and feature films.(from http://collider.com/kevin-macdonald-...-marley/75227/)
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Sounds interesting. Hopefully this thing finally happens.
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